Top podcaster and former Fox News star Megyn Kelly called out her journalist guests during her Thursday program after they accused her of “conflating” the gun control issue.
Co-hosts of the “All-In” Podcast Jason Calacanis and David Sacks appeared on “The Megyn Kelly Show,” on Tuesday when the host asked them about soft on crime policies and how they’ve contributed to crime rates, including mass shootings.
“We’ve seen the crime rates go up in our major cities and in particular, the murder rates go up in our major cities massively over the past couple of years,” Kelly said during the segment.
“And there’s no question, the pandemic played some role in that, for sure. But the soft on crime policies played a massive role as well,” she continued.
“What we’re seeing right now, also a weird phenomenon in the past month or so, since Buffalo, since Uvalde, since we’ve seen, more and more coverage of shootings pop up, those were mass shootings,” Kelly added.
“There’s no question about that. But now you start to hear CNN, you read the New York Times, you listen to the Biden White House, some Democrat politicians — they describe everything as a mass shooting, like four people shot at the grocery store, wherever it’s a mass shooting,” the host continued.
Calacanis interjected at that point and said, “How many people need to die in a shooting, Megyn, or get hit by a bullet for you to consider it a mass shooting? Is it four? Is it seven?”
“Let me finish my point, Jason. As I was saying before you interrupted me, I’m not trying to dispute the use of the word ‘mass,’” Kelly continued.
“What I’m trying to dispute is the attempt to now say we’ve gotta get guns because of all the mass shootings, the mass shootings are what justify our newfound push on gun control –”
Calacanis interrupted Kelly again, repeating his question, “So how many people need to die in a mass shooting for it to be–” before Kelly cut him off.
“Why don’t you answer my question since you’re here as the guest?” Kelly demanded.
But Calacanis ignored the question, saying, “I think you’re conflating a lot of different issues in a very partisan way to get ratings.”
That remark did not sit well with the host.
“That’s bullshit! Don’t question my motives. This is where you — you turn into kind of an asshole!” Kelly spat back.
“I’m giving you my honest analysis. And for you to say that I am misleading the audience for ratings is a prick thing to say, you don’t know me,” she railed.
“I’ve made my name and made my business based on honest journalism. I realize you may be number 26 worldwide, but you’ve never done real journalism at the level I have in your life,” she continued.
“So I don’t need a lecture from you about ratings. I am here to deliver honest information to my audience. That’s what I’m doing. You can disagree with my point without getting personal,” Kelly concluded, shutting Calacanis down after what had been a fairly pleasant and friendly conversation up until that point.