Fox News hosts Greg Gutfeld and Geraldo Rivera exchanged heated words during a segment on “The Five” this week over the issue of abortion.
During the segment, the show’s panel discussed the unprecedented leak of a Supreme Court draft opinion in which a majority of justices favored striking down the landmark 1973 Roe v. Wade decision.
The discussion got heated almost immediately when Rivera claimed that the three conservative justices nominated by then-President Donald Trump — Neil Gorsuch, Brett Kavanaugh, and Amy Coney Barrett — really had planned all along to reverse the ruling.
“What this shows is that the Senate confirmation process by which a nominee is interrogated by both parties and give their reasons why they are fit to be on the high court, is absolutely, deeply flawed,” Rivera claimed.
“Why? Because these nominees lied. They go before the Senate of the United States, they swear that they are going to be judicious and good, you know, shepherds of the court and its impartiality in the importance it has in the American society, and that the stare decisis that the precedent of these cases is well established,” Rivera added.
“And then they turn around the minute they get in the high court, they make a decision that is so dramatically opposed to what they said during the confirmation hearing,” he continued.
“Shame on them. Shame on Gorsuch. Shame on Coney Barrett. Shame on Kavanaugh. They knew … that they were going to vote to reverse or overthrow Roe v. Wade. They knew it and they lied about it.”
“What am I going to tell my daughters now?” Rivera asked. “That they don’t have control over their body? That they can’t make those choices for themselves?”
Gutfeld could not hold back his response at this point.
“This is why pro-lifers win,” Gutfeld said. “Because they can state their case so plainly. You ask somebody why they’re pro-life, they will say, ‘Because abortion takes a life and we believe life is sacred.’”
“You could disagree with that, but you can’t disagree with the simplicity of it, right?” Gutfeld asked.
“My body, my choice. How much simpler can you get?” Rivera interrupted, and the two were off.
“Let me finish,” Gutfeld said. “You already did your ad hominem.”
“Ad hominem? It was not,” Rivera said.
“You insulted a few people there,” Gutfeld said.
He said the mindset of pro-abortion forces now is that abortion is “something to celebrate, to cherish.”
“Oh, that’s baloney. That’s baloney,” Rivera fired back.
“I’ll give you evidence,” Gutfeld responded.
“Cherish the wire hanger stuck up their privates trying to get –,” Rivera said.
“The unborn child becomes,” Gutfeld said before each of them talked over the other until Gutfeld said, “This is exactly what I expected.”
“You are arrogant,” Rivera fired off.
“Go for it, Geraldo. Come on, keep going. You’re making a fool of yourself,” Gutfeld said in response.
“You know something, you insulting punk?” Rivera said.
“Hah! Oh, am I your new Bongino?” Gutfeld jokingly responded, referring to host Dan Bongino, with whom Rivera regularly argues.
“If you want that role,” Rivera said.